National Energy Codes have given our industry an opportunity to show folks the superiority of solid wood walls and the ease to comply with R values. We have always had good old thermal mass. In our 26 years in the log home industry we have built homes from all species of wood. Northern White Cedar provides all the qualities we need in a log home. Rot resistance,better insulator,insect resistant,stability,and appearance. Cedar readily accepts all finishes and stains. Any consideration for settling and shrinkage is less than other species and is not more expensive than they are. Jim and Pam Katahdin Cedar Log Homes
It is more expensive Jim. It is a higher quality, but it is more expensive, no matter how you pitch it. And you sign off on Katahdin, like you own the place. Do you not have an entity for your kit dealing business? Or are you an actual shareholder of Katahdin?
Hey Ray, Back to Nature Builders is our company in the Mid Atlantic Region. We are Dealer/Builders for Katahdin Cedar Log Homes and they are highly respected in our industry. As a Dealer I would be remiss if I didn't tell folks who I represent. They have been around for almost 40 years and have developed a superior cedar building system that can under roof as fast as a stick-built home. The big difference is that the stick builder still has to finish the envelope,usually with the involvement of other trades. Pre-cutting,pre-drilling,and bar coding enables us to dry-in in half the time with a four person crew. Jim and Pam Katahdin Cedar Log Homes
Well I wish you the best in your endeavors Jim, and I am a big fan of white cedar myself, and never discourage anyone from using it. It just seems like when you compare white pine to cedar in cost, you are undermining the great product of white cedar......or somebody is over pricing white pine by 80 to 100 percent.
I also use white pine and I know how to preserve it that it is sustainable in any climate. But I do not disagree that white cedar is a higher quality material, and in this industry, there are people that are willing to pay a premium for premium material. I don't believe that you and I as builders need to apologize for charging higher prices for higher grade materials. I will leave it at that.
Again, all the best to you.
Good Morning Ray, Katahdin Cedar Log Homes is the largest user in the country. Every part of the log is used to heat their manufacturing facility,make the logs and trim,cedar fencing,furniture,play ground equipment,planters,and mulch. Potato waste is converted to ethenol and used in the motorized equipment. The largest concentration of northern white cedar is in Maine and enables them to keep material costs competitive. I am blessed to be a part of such a green organization. Take care, Jim and Pam
I live in Maine, and I built my small home out of cedar too.
I really like white cedar (although harder to work then white pine, especially if you get the genetic spiral grain).
I used my own logs. hewed them flat and did a V notch on the corners.
Wasn't it Kathadin who got the very large China contract?
Or was that Moosehead?
Hi Shanny, Tell me more about building that cedar cabin. I must confess that I am not familiar with the term "genetic spiral grain". Katahdin shipped a 10,000 square foot lodge and welcome center recently for a large log home community in China. The log home industry exports a lot of it's products to other countries because they need stronger homes due to some severe weather conditions and things like earthquakes. Mainers are a hardy lot and you are apparently one . Jim and Pam
Yeah....even other mainers call us "hardy"...lol.
I read an interesting article on white cedar and spiral grain.
I never thought much about it until I started building my cabin.
We were doing alot of the work old school.
My wife chiseled the steeple's and noticed some of the difficulty with some of the logs and the grain.
Apparently there were many theories as to why some white cedars had a twist...some people said it was wind and environmental conditions, but eventually it was discovered that it was due to genetics. Some cedars with the grain were offspring of the same parent tree in the same area.
I will see if I can find it.
Here is one article;
I will see if I can find the aticle specific to cedars...I think it was on the "wood web" site....interesting.